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saying you're sorry. >> this was never about shirley sherrod. >> shirley may be getting friendly rubs "the view." what's his name is rubbing her the wrong name. >> i can't think of his name. zood andrew brightbart. >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. "john king usa" starts right now. president obama is the driving force in our politics today for a number of very big reasons. one, an apologetic phone call with shirley sherrod. she joins us to share the details. two, another big legislative victory. an extension of unemployment benefits on the heels of the big wall street reform bill. is that it this year, or will the democrats push for tough votes on energy and immigration? three, new numbers likely to impact fa debate over the agenda and whether the president has any political capital left to spend. here are the numbers. stark evidence that divided and
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polarized electorate. 47% of americans approve of how the president is handling his job, 50% disapprove. the partisan divide is striking. 87% of democrats approve of mr. obama's job performance. 84% of republicans disapprove. a peek deep inside numbers finds these two warning signs for the president and his party. older americans are the most reliable voters and 6 in 10 americans over 65 disapprove of the president's job performance. independents settle most close elections. again, 6 in 10 independents disapprove of the president's performance. just ahead we dig deep into how his political standing impacts the agenda and the mood among liberal and conservative activists gathering separately this week out in las vegas. here to help us is our lead panel today. ed henry and perry bacon and gloria borjer.
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first, that phone call with the president. miss sherrod thanks for joining us. a very straight forward question. not many americans get a chance to talk directly to the president of the united states, especially when the president of the united states wants to say i'm sorry. take us inside that phone call. >> okay. well, you know, i was excited about being able to talk directly to the president. i really did not want the president to say to me, "i'm sorry." you know, he's the president of the united states. i didn't really need to hear him say those words. i did need to hear them from the secretary and some others, but not necessarily from him. >> did he use those words? did the president say, "i'm sorry"? >> he didn't just come out and say "i'm sorry," but in every way the words did he say to me, i think, meant i'm sorry. >> whenever you have a conversation with the president
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of the united states, you get a little nervous. i have been there myself in interviews with the president of the united states, and this one and previous presidents. then you walk away and think i wish i would have asked this. what was missing from the conversation now that you've had a couple hours to reflect? >> well, we really didn't get a chance to go into some of the things i'd like to talk more deeply about, but he left that door for me to get information to him. he told me that individual who texted me can get directly into his office. he left a way for me to communicate with him. >> did he give you an explanation that you are comfortable with, satisfied with about how this happened, how his government -- he's in charge, and how his government decided to force you resign before checking the facts, before getting the full picture? >> no, we didn't really get into that. i didn't press him to explain to
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me just why and why is it that they didn't looking more deeply. he said he really didn't know from the beginning, you know, and i can accept that maybe he didn't know, but someone in his -- in the white house knew, because i don't think the individual who said to me, "the white house wants you to resign," would have come with that on her own. i knew her before she was at usda. >> tloiven a brief snippet from secretary vilsack when he apologized and said it was a gross misjudgment. i took full responsibility but did vaguely mention the white house. >> i'm not certain in what period of time the white house was contacted, but as these calls were being made, the white house through the liaison's office, was aware. but the decision to do what was done was done by me.
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>> you're not convinced it sounds even after speaking directly with the president of the united states that that's the full story? >> i'm fairly certain that if, you know -- i really believe the president when he said he didn't know, but i still stand by the fact that someone in the white house knew. who that is, i don't know. probably will never know, but i believe that's what happened. >> help me better understand what the president said to you and the message you think he was trying to give to you. >> well, he wanted -- he was really trying to assure me that the secretary is serious about dealing with discrimination in the agency. he wanted me to know he was sincere with the offer. he talked about the things --
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some of the things i've talked about over the past few days of things he has written in his book. i think in that way he was trying to say to me i'm aware of some of the things he thinks i'm talking about. we really didn't get into it. i think i can still help shed some more light on just what we were getting at but not really getting at. >> much more of the conversation a bit later in the program. shirley sherrod gets feisty about her dricritics and some long-time friends. ed henry, i was e-mailing with someone at the white house, a relatively senior official that said in our view now that the president spoke to her, they say they think it's over, but she's not satisfied. >> they separately want this. they told me how upset they are inside the west wing. they think the media is fanning the flames and keeping this alive and throwing oft front
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pages the fact the president won on wall street reform and beat back the republicans on getting unemployment compensation extended. i think the fact that she is still so composed and laying out the fact she's convinced someone inside the white house new this and robert gibbs for the second straight day today would not talk about who inside the white house talked to the agriculture department, and they will not make cheryl cook at agriculture department available for questions. if there's nothing to hide, come out and say, here's who we talked about. >> on that point, per yishgs the media couldn't be fanning the flaming if they had not fire this had woman without a fair hearing. the president seems to understand that. let's listen to the president. >> partly we live in in media culture where something goes up on youtube or a blog, and everybody scrambles. i told my team and i told my agencies that we have to make sure that we're focusing on doing the right thing instead of
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what looks to be politically necessary at that the very moment. >> the president seems to think this is their problem. >> he hit the right problem. they criticize the 24-hour news seekle and the reporters are driving the story instead of the white house. they're so reactive to this. they immediately fire this person because of what was on the news instead of ignoring it. they fell into their own trap again. >> it's hard to avoid, honestly, because you're always in campaign mode now. there is no time when you just govern and get out of the campaign mode. something like this happens, and you feel like you react to it quickly. there's always incoming into the white house, every single day. there has to be somebody who says, take a deep breath. in this particular case the question is, was there somebody at the white house that said
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take a deep breath, and was there somebody else who said we have to respond to this? was it really an issue at the white house, and does miss sherrod know something that we don't know? it sounds like -- >> it sounds like she does. >> i never thought i would see the day when the white house would prefer to talk about the oil spill, but i think now they would. >> you're panel will stay with us. a lot more to talk about, including remarkable new poll numbers how the americans feel about their president. the rest of my conversation with shirley sherrod including -- remember, andrew brightbart? he started all this by putting up the misleading excerpt of the speech online. what would she want to say to him? >> i'd tell him he's a liar. ... and the opportunity to raise it to an even better rate... ... one time over the course of your term. try us at
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this evening president obama restored the bill so people get unemployment until the end of november. this is his second big victory in a week, and let's continue or conversation. our national political correspondent jessica yellen joins us from las vegas.
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also with us is ed henry and perry bacon of the "washington post" and gloria borger. 40% approve and 50% disapprove. whether you look closely, the independents critical in elections, elderly americans, those over the age of 65, the most important constituency in the election. ed henry if you're the president and you're the leader of the party and it's your first mid-term election, that's a recipe for trouble. >> we all know they're the ones when they turn out and they decide in these elections in 2008 they broke for barack obama big-time against john mccain. they have to get them back between now and november. >> white men is a big problem right now for this white house. it's always been a big problem for barack obama, but some gave him the benefit of the doubt in the election last time. if while men turn decisively for republicans, it will hurt congressional democrats. >> you spent a lot of time
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covering congress, and they have big decisions. do you bring up a big energy bill, comprehensive immigration reform that the wlous and harry reid promised to do. a lot of conservative democrats are no thank you. >> they decided no to both those things. i wroek about the climate change bill won't happen and immigration won't happen either. they keep passing lots of bills, and because of the unemployment numbers and the economy, voters don't seem to care or the voters are not rewarding them for all the things they're doing. jes jes. >> jessica yellen is in las vegas. it seems peaceful at the moment. jessica, out there what is the conversation about the president's standing and especially among the liberals. they're foaming because they wanted more. >> yeah. i'm with the progressives kcaucs here. the general sense here is president obama, while they
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recognized he's stymied by republicans in congress, isn't enough of a fighter for them. they want him to put up more of a fight, tap further to the left and take solid ground on things like no offshore oil exploration. he compromises on energy and climate to allow offshore oil drilling before they begin negotiations on a climate bill which is changing. they like him to be more of a fighter and stake out position he might not be able to win so that when there does become some compromise, it's not in their view as far to the right. they think that's a winning formula because they argue this is a populist nation and the general public would likt of the positions, john. >> what do they say if they ask what if they don't do any of those things the left would like. will they vote in november? will they support the democrats or take it out on them? >> they'll take it out on them. they say, one, new voters won't be energized because they're
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disappointed, and two, they're willing to campaign against candidates who they think are too, in their words, moderate compromising and stick up for the fighters. people in the primary the mainstream democrats might say can't win, they say they'll back the fighters. they say even president obama could suffer. progressives might not get behind him with fervor in 2012 if he doesn't come their way and fight a little heard. that's what i hear here, john. >> it's a fascinating moment in politics. every day ticking closer to the midterm. thank you for coming in. a lot more to come in the program tonight, including we continue our conversation with shirley sherrod. wait until you hear what she has to say about the conservative blogger who started this controversy and friends she thought were her allies in the naacp. more on her call with the president. also on the radar tonight, how is it that 42 is greater than 44? we know our math around here. john boehner is being questioned
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about his family ties. how close he keeps in touch. in the play by play, we have arnold schwarzenegger weighing in on the mel gibson controversy. the governor is always funny in california, and this is a big election about the economy. other issues and not one colorado race at the moment. it's about high heems and manhood.
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the progressives are in inform for the annual net roots nation, and a bunch of conservatives are gathering out there as well. a quick look before we talk to our guests, this is what happened online. the explosion of political activity. if you look at 800 organizations that do political con dent online, about 30%, 28.9% are conserve if i have and 28% are liberal. news organization information is 7.1% and so many others dedicated to specific issues on the spectrum. as i walk over here to start the conversation, amy to you first. we just heard from jessica yellen who says progressives are
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disappointed. they want the president to fight more and do more. what is the leading issue among the progressives there, and are they positive or frustrated? >> first i want to talk about the temperature, which is in the range of 107 to 113. that goes to the issue of of global warming. when we flew in last night, the pilot said welcome to lost wages for las vegas. highest unemployment here, highest bankruptcy and foreclosures, 15% unemployment almost. i think when you're dealing with these kinds of issues, people are angry and they feel that the president could be much harder on, for example, those big banks, even with what they call land mark financial regulation. we are talking about still maintaining banks that are too big to fail and people are very concerned about that as they are about war, as they are about the ish issue of immigration.
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here it's about people organizing. >> eric, give us the other side of the coin. where is the energy on the conservative side? >> the group is smaller at right john line but we have cpac in martha draws the big crowd. they're very excited, always there's hesitation there. a lot of the conservative activis activists online are concerned that the republicans who led the gop out of power in 2006 will lead them back in, and they're not sure that they see signs they learned their less sons. for example, eric can'tor wasn't sure if he wants to repeal the immigration legislation, which a lot of guys think is bad legislation. >> it's fascinating that both of you talk about dissatisfaction at the base level with their establishment figures, and the establishment leaders of the party. i want to share these numbers with you. we have a few poll tonight. whether you break it down, the partisan divide is startling and many would say unhealthy in the
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country. only 11% of democrats disapprove, but among republicans only 14% approve and 84% disapprove. that is the world you live in every day, it's the word you're in right now, the left versus the right. but is it healthy for our country that we are so polarized? >> i mean, overall people are organized and getting their feet athe ground across the political spectrum. i also think here it's not about just making demands of the president. here it's about people making connections, and that's what's most interesting, going from a session on mountain top removal in west virginia to sessions on social networking. people are turning to each other, and that makes and i think there are people you'd be surprised right and left who are here because those issues of economic recession for many a depression, foreclosure and
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bankruptcy, it unites people across the spectrum. >> john, yes, there's a partisan division but last month cnn said republicans more so independents are angry with republicans as well. you see that with self-identified republicans more so than self-identified conservative. there's general dissatisfaction going to this pea party move where a pox on all of their houses so to speak. if the republican leadership has to show conservatives in particular we're not going to abandon you when we get back into power. there's a great deal of mistrust from the end of the bush administration with fiscal conservatives. >> i think it's important, john, we're here in a bellwether sftae in terms of a senate election. the only reason harry reid is ahead ahead is because sharon engel shot herself in the with her recommendation that people engage in second amtdment
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solution, nerd shooting harry reid. it hasn't made her very popular here with an unpopular senator. >> i want to ask you -- very quickly go ahead, eric. >> i saw a great bumper sticker today on nevada plates that said, don't vote. the government wins either way. >> i think that's the sentiment you're both expressing. let me ask you, amy, andrew brightbart, i asked shirley sherrod about him today and you'll hear her answers. he gave an interview with plit co-and he said this i am public enemy number one or two to the democratic party, the progre progressive moment and the obama administration based on the successes my journalism has had. i'm guessing you don't share that. >> i don't think it's journalism. i think to say the least it's lies. it's editing deceptively videotape that almost destroyed a long-time civil rights activist. you're going to hear from her i
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understand, shirley sherrod. i think what's of concern to people here, the bloggers, the writers, the activists is that the obama administration responded so quickly on his side and had her fire or had her resign, although ultimately they've been forced to turn around. why isn't obama listening to them the way he listened to andrew brightbart and glenn beck and fox. >> great to see you both. we'll check in as the week goes o. thank you for keeping him safe in the conservative meeting right now maybe making unorthodox friends. still ahead, the rest of our fascinating interview with shirley sherrod and also her thoughts on andrew brightbart who first put the misleading tape of her speech on the internet. >> i'd tell him he's a liar. ♪
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welcome back. let's check in for the news you need to know right now. brianna. >> the national hurricane center has upgraded tropical depression 3 to tropical storm bonnie. it's expected to make the closest approach for the florida keys tomorrow afternoon and pass west of the bp oil spill towards the louisiana coast. it should hit louisiana as latd as sunday. bobby jindal declared a state of emergency this afternoon.
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chad allen said he ruined his vacation about 9d 0 minutes from now to evacuate the well site because of storm. bau to you. >> thanks very much. fascinating to watch that weather. now let's get back to the 101 conversation with shirley sherrod. we spoke about a conversation about our conversation today with president obama. >> before this conversation with the president when you were hoping to talk to the president, you said, quote, i know he does not have that kind of experience. let me help him a little bit with how we think, how we live. i assume you mean growing up black ncts segregated south. did that come up at all? >> that didn't come up, but that's xaktdly what i was talking about. and not just dwelling on the past, but the way things are now. you know, we are still not together in black and white community the way we should be at this point after the last 50
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years of civil rights struggle. i had hoped we would have made -- we would have done more, let's say, to move beyond where we were, for example, whether my father was murdered in '65 or when the movement started in 1961 or when the student nonviolent coordinating committee was organized in 1960. you know, we just celebrated the 50th anniversary of snik in april, and you would hope that after 50 years we would not be having the conversations we've been forced to have over the last few days. >> do you -- >> i would have never guessed. >> never have guessed. >> i would have never guessed i would have been caught up in anything like this 50 years later. >> and that you are, and that you had this extraordinary conversation with the president of the united states today.
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does it bring you closer to closure for this horrific episode for you, or do you leave the conversation, hang up the phone and have even more questions? >> i've had a conversation with the president. i've been told i can -- there are other ways i can get some of the issues that are -- some of the things that i've allude to to him, nothing else has changed yet. they're sti there's still a lot more talking to be done, a lot more work to be done, a lot still -- quite a bit of discrimination that no one has really spoken to, the systemic discrimination that still exists in the u.s. department of agriculture. that's why not only do we have a black farmer's lawsuit but a hispanic farmer and female farmer's lawsuit. until we deal with what's
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happening there, until they, until the department heads feel that they can actually communicate with the lowly employees in that organization to get their perspective and not be so hung up on protocol i think we will never get to where we need to be in making the real change there. >> i want to walk through some of the specifics then. you raised one right there. the secretary says in his phone call with you he asked you to come back. it sounds like you think the department needs a lot of help. a specific question first. did he offer you your old job back and the choice of a higher ranking job or is there just one option? >> he only offered me a job in the office of outreach. now, whether you look at that as being a higher position and, i don't know. he did not offer my old job back, no. that has not happened. >> would you like that job, or
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are you going to take this other job? >> you know, i just really can't say now. i'm at place where i just need to get out of this frenzy, go home, and get my grandchildren and get to the point where i can think. i truly -- you know, when i say i don't know yet, you might think it's something media. it's how i feel right now. as i told him yesterday, i need to think about this. i have not seen the position in writing yet. i need to also look at that, and just look at -- think about what kind of impact i can have at that level. i know what i was doing at the state office level, you know. what would be expected of me. and the other thing that scares me. i wouldn't want everyone to think that now there's this one person who is supposed to deal
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with civil rights in the department and if we don't eradicate it, if we don't get rid of it, shirley sherrod is the person who's responsible for that. >> i can completely respect your need to think about this. i get that completely. 99% of the country would not know shirley sherrod if it were not for andrew brightbart who posted a clip of your speech on his website. i had him on the program the other night, and i challenged directly saying what he put on the website was out of context. he disputed that. i want you to listen to andrew brightbart. >> this was not about shirley sherrod. this was about the naacp attacking the tea party, and this is showing racism at an naacp event. i did not ask for shirley sherrod to be fired. i did not ask for any repercussions for shirley sherrod. they were the ones that took the initiative to get rid of her. >> if you had 30 seconds with andrew brightbart, what would you say? >> i'd tell him he's a liar.
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he knew exactly what effect that would have on not only -- he knew what effect that would have on the conservative racist people he's dealing with. that's why i started to get the hate mail, and that's why i started to get the hate calls. he got the effect he was looking for. >> and you have said you're open to forgiving so many people involved in this saga including the secretary of education -- agriculture. excuse me. the president of the united states. would you forgive andrew brightbart? >> he would really need to come and sit down with me and look me in the eye so that we could see if we can find a place. i'm not saying i won't forgive him, but we'd need to see if we can find a place where that can happen. i don't see it at this point. he hasn't been willing or tried to apologize to me for anything he's caused me to go through. >> you mentioned your involvement in the vooiflcivil
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struggle for so many years and the horrible murder of your father. one of the agencies in the middle is the naacp. the head of the naacp said this the other night on twitter. he spoke to miss sherrod earlier today and personally apologized. plan to meet with her face to face next time i'm in georgia. when this happened the naacp supported vilsack's decision to step aside and he tweeted this. racism is about abuse of power. sherrod has it at usda. she abused a white farmer because of his race. naacp is appalled. how did you feel that the premise we need to treat everybody fairly did not listen to your side of the story and check its fact brs it said you were racist? >> i could say to you that hurt even more than what dhe to me at the department. when you look at my history, when you look at my work, you know i've stood for fairness and equality probably even more than
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the naacp has. for that organization, an organization i've supported through the years to come out and strike out at me without taking the time to look at me, the work i've done, and what i stand for, that really hurt. it hurt. they apologized, they retracted. i can accept that and move on. >> i want to close by asking you to listen to something then candidate for president barack obama said back in march 2008. he was then a candidate for president. he gave a major speech on race in america, and he said this. >> contrary to the claims of some of my drikts black and white, i have never been so naive to believe we can get rebee i don't understand our racial divisions in a single election cycle or a single candidate, particularly -- particularly a candidacy as
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imperfect as my own. >> nearly two years into this administration, shirley sherrod, does this episode involving you tell you? have we moved at all? >> you know, i want to feel that we've made progress in terms of race relations, but, you know, when you really look at what happened here over the last few days, it looks like we sort of swept race relations under the rug and hoped that the problems would get solved while they were hidden. but that's not how we can do it. this has shown that we haven't made that much progress since 50 years ago when we started the civil rights movement. yeah, we integrated some schools, kids go to integrated schools, we can eat anywhere we want to, but what other real progress have we made? >> our thanks to miss sherrod for her time tomorrow. today's most important person you don't know has sent killers to prison for life.
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the most porntd person you don't know. the u.s. district judge susan bolten was appointed by bill clinton but on the recommendation of republican senator jon kyl. she was a state court judge before that, and handles interesting cases. one involved a man convicted of murder based on the it dna found in the pickup truck. a woman was convicted for kill her husband for insurance money. it spark aid republican headline we couldn't pass up. he marry aid former playboy bunny with black heart. let's talk about that and other
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items and my radar over. would you relish the spotlight, mark, of having being the judge handling this immigration case or would you wish your colleagues got it? >> that puts the judge in a tough position. any ruling in which that judge will receive a lot of mail. it will take a tough judge to make a decision on that case. >> no question about it. it's a tough position no whaert what the judge comes down with, a lot of hate mail. i don't envy that person. >> the president is watching. >> that's a good one right there. >> and the tea party. >> during the conversation earlier today with shirley sherrod, we asked her about her opinion of president obama. >> i voted for president obama, and i will vote for him again. you know, there's some things i hope he would do differently, but, you know, i think he's getting there.
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he will get there. we need to give him a chance. i think we -- if we work with them, we can be satisfied with the results of all of us putting the effort in and not just have it come from him. >> as someone who has been around a president at times that's difficult, this is surprising and not a crisis or problem for the president to deal with. what have we learned about the president, the white house and shirley sherrod this week? >> i think shirley sherrod chose herself to be a true champion of civil rights and somebody who was falsely accused who stands up for her herself, and america loves someone who is falsely accus accused, stands up for themselves and sets the record right. the administration didn't handle this as well as they could, but really this reflects most conservative on the movement. they look like they're ready to falsely cry racism. they've seriously hurt their credibility. >> the white house overreacted and they proved to the american people they made rookie mista s
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mistakes. the person that should be applauded for this, she was a bureau accurate down in georgia and did the right thing, acted in a rational way and people at 1600 pennsylvania avenue didn't act in a good way. >> we don't hear that a lot in washington, but we heard it. you know, from the president's press secretary to the secretary of agriculture and maybe the president of the united states. >> i'll mov on to the new gallup poll. you can see mr. obama trails the former president, bill clinton n-th, in this gallup poll but ahead of president bush. this is a favorability rating, and it appears 42 is greater than 44, huh? >> huh. mark, i'm sure you love this. >> you polled for president
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clinton for some time. you want to refepudiate those numbers? >> i polled for him for a long time. so many people said after the campaign, he's this and that and back in a big way and huge asset for democrats. let's remember, it's president obama on the firing line these days, and at the same time of his presidency, president clinton would have been lucky to have president obama's rating. when i started with president clinton he was 30% approval after the midterm congressional raise. >> during the 1990s take bill clinton's personal situation out, those were good years with the economy. we had welfare reform and surpluses. people remember that the clinton years were good. >> in the ditch we're in now, they look better. i need to stop now. high heels versus manhood in a senate race out in colorado. we'll show you when we return. [ male announcer ] if you have type 2 diabetes, you struggle to control your blood sugar. you exercise and eat right,
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here comes the play by play. >> great tape to break down tonight in the play by play. here comes mark penn and republican mark. let's talk about henry wrangell. he was forced to step aside because of rangel. one of the most powerful men in washington and he was forced to step aside because of ethic's allegations. today he learned the house ethic's committee will have a big eight-member panel meaning a full investigation. as charlie rangel was walking on capitol hill, a question was asked by the producer at nbc news, the son of the late great tim russert and he asked a good question. are you worried you'll lose your job? >> you think i got my job? how do you think i would lose it. >> there's two ways. your colleagues vote you out because of ethic's violations or because your constituents -- >> what station are you from?
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>> you're from msnbc. >> you're young, you know you need to make a name form yourself. basically, that's a dumb question. >> i'll go first. it's not a dumb question, it's a good question. it shows, the apple doesn't fall far from the free. >> that's the height of arrogance. someone that's a public servant, not only to dismiss a member of the press but not even answering a legitimate question. this is a person who's been in the house for 40 plus years who has some serious ethic's charges around him and i might add, this is a bipartisan commission that came to this conclusion. for mr. rangel to conduct himself that way is very disrespectful towards the house. >> if we've learned nothing the last couple of days, let's not judge allegations until the report is out. >> but it is out. this is an investigation that's been going on for quite some time. >> it's a perfectly fair question to say -- are you worried about losing your job? i guess -- we'll move on. one of the battleground senate
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race this is year is out in the state of colorado. the big issue is the economy, energy, climate change. so many huge issues in the country. this is down to some interesting things. here's a candidate, ken buck, a republican candidate. he's at a rally and he's mad at jane norton and others. >> why should you vote for me? because i don't wear high heels? she questioned my masculinity. i have cowboy beats and they have real [bleep] -- and [bleep] and in washington, d.c. -- >> when your opponent says something like that and it's captured on tape -- >> i have cowboy boots and they have real [bleep]. they have -- >> now, ken buck wants to go to washington. he'd fit right in. >> and --
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>> i have no response to that. obviously it was a rookie mistake. i don't know what to say. it's not a very good thing for him to do and he should be ashamed of himself for saying it. >> one good ad? i think it's a really good ad. and, certainly, he committed a really a sexist sin in terms of him saying that because he didn't have high heels. >> talk about putting your foot in your mouth. >> why are people still saying stuff like that. >> here's a good one. arnold schwarzenegger, governor of california, action figures in the movies and comedian. >> the good news that bp has contained the oil leak. that is good news. finally. finally. the bad news that no one has figured out how to contain mel gibson. mel gibson, no one knows how to contain that's why i want to ask all of you to turn off your cell phones. we are expecting a call from him.
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couple minutes away from the top of the hour and rick sanchez. let's check in for a preview. i think it's time to ask some serious questions of a couple different individuals. first of all, andrew bright
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bardt, this is not the first time he's accused of having his hand in selective editing of tape. and we'll show you examples. but there's another point. what's going on over at fox news? it's very legitimate question. given what's gone on in the last 48 to 72 hours in this country. are they'll really a news organization? and if so, which part? we're going to ask those questions and we'll look at it in-depth. that's where we'll begin doing tonight with this debut show of "rick's list primetime." john, back to you my colleague. in washington, this question's all the time about your money and how it's spent and everybody says -- if we're going to balance the budget or bring down the deficit something has to be cut. so pete on the street, he's not in new york, he's here in d.c. and pete went out to find out what we got? >> i thought coming to washington, d.c., everybody would have an idea of what they
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want to cut. this would be an easy, easy question. but you know you put people on the spot they're not quite sure but they know what they want to cut from their personal lives. i went out to find out. >> all right. >> what do you think our government spends too much money on? >> themselves. >> saturday mail delivery. >> war. >> on war? >> the army. >> nasa. >> nasa? >> yeah. >> you don't like space exploration? >> your dad hates the moon. >> he doesn't hate anything. >> i'm putting words in your mouth. >> i think they're cutting in the wrong places like education. >> what do you spend too much money on? >> not her. she just ran away. >> the women in the united states for if for three months they didn't buy anything, everything would go down. >> you should marry my wife. i bought her jewelry and she told me to bring it back. >> oh, no, you never tell them to bring back the jewelry. >> he has too many hats. >> i won't bust him. >> the child? >> i'm sorry, we have to cut you from the budget. you can come live at


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